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Artisan Talk

With Pierre Finkelstein & Patrick Ganino

Patrick Ganino and Pierre Finkelstein sitting together for a recording session
Patrick Ganino & Pierre Finkelstein

Two artists, decades of experience, and a shared obsession with what it actually takes to make a living from a craft.

With decades of experience building careers as professional artists, Pierre and Patrick understand that creativity is about much more than making something beautiful. It's about developing a craft, taking risks, solving problems, building relationships, running a business, and finding a way to turn what you love into a life and career.

Through conversations with artists, artisans, craftspeople, designers, makers, and creative professionals from around the world, we explore the stories behind the work — and the people behind those stories. How did they get started? What have they learned along the way? What mistakes did they make? And perhaps most importantly, how have they managed to build a life that allows them to continue creating?

Our goal is to pull back the curtain on the creative world and have honest, entertaining, and educational conversations about what it really means to make a living with your hands, your ideas, and your imagination. Come meet the artisans, hear their stories, learn their secrets, and discover what it takes to live a creative life.

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